Well it is nice to know that if you are a war criminal who wants to commit a genocide, just do it during the week of xmas/new years, because the most powerful governments in the West won't want to bum their citizens out. Never thought I'd see the bombing of refugee camps and wanton killing of children being so uncompassionately reported on. I guess protecting children only counts if they're American and the threat is some imaginary trans boogie man. With New Years around the corner, I'm sure we can solve this problem, by making our New Year's resolution to be forcing our government to stop a genocide and lose a few pounds, both equally important. #lifegoals
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@pewternatural Here's good ol' right wing CNN blowing out your entire argument: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html
Right there, it says they supported the terrorist attacks, tortures, kidnappings, etc. and support Hamas at large.
Hamas exists because Palestinians support them. This is not acceptable. People have tried for freaking ever to find "peace" with these people since I was little and earlier. They don't want it. They want the Jews out of the Middle East and say so explicitly. If they wanted actual co-existence, this would have ended like 40 years ago. You can't act like savages with 1st world populations or the boot will come down on where they are sheltering the terrorists, and rightfully so. I don't buy into this counter-programming pity play you are buying into. It's always the same stuff. They punch first, brutally mind you on civilians, and then the Israel military has to respond and go to where the terrorists are hiding, and then foreign wokesters come to their rescue at the first sign of collateral damage, trying to make us forget how this started (again).
And LOL going personal on this, like this would stop me responding. You're the one who put this out there, and your position was inflammatory. I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your opinion, but this position basically has no support in the mainstream, both politics and the press, and only finds support with college neophytes (even if you are long graduated). You sided with the people who support terrorists after one of the most brutal terror attacks, targeting women, children and the elderly, in history instead of the only democracy in the Middle East, what did you think would happen? What am I supposed to not respond because we have a mutual friend? Am I supposed to censor my opinions? You seem a bit insecure, my dude, and the last paragraph of personal anecdotes underlines that. I was not insulting you, I was just posting my thoughts and addressing the other side in totality, but that's not my problem you took this personally. Admitting you "ignore me" doesn't really change that.
And I wasn't really implying you support those Democrats. But they are the Democrats, left wingers, whatever, you have and will ever have in power, because yeah the USA is not insane enough to abandon Israel and side with Islamic terrorists. Yeah, I'm sure you're not a Democrat and don't like Biden, just like my brother in San Fran with his Bernie stickers on his laptop who says the same exact thing. Notice how you didn't explain your political world view. I don't think you are a libertarian here. LOL. You can correct me if I'm wrong. Also your counter to me stereotyping your politics is to put me in a box too, like I fit any descriptor or a typical right wing strawperson on this planet, and I have experienced enough seething from my peer groups to prove that. Like a straight dude doing the same thing would make me think twice. lol
The sad thing is I actually wanted to ween myself off of political discussion, but this entire thing that started in October with 4chan /pol/ nazis and left winger college kids joining hands uninorcially just forced my hand, although I only brought it up elsewhere, not DA/this place until now. Someone needs to stand up to this kind of crazyness, I'm sorry. On the other hand, if you don't want blowback for strong opinions, such as that Jews are committing "genocide," you could also keep it to yourself.
I honestly don't remember what arguments we had before you are talking about. Were you the one defending postmodern architecture? Because that's still ugly as fuck and no one likes it. Good lord, I was going to go to a art museum with my girlfriend but decided not to because it looks like a giant sink and messed up a historic downtown with beautiful classic architecture with its godawful postmodern design. Anyways, I don't remember anything else, so if I don't, maybe you should get over it too and calm down, because I'm not going anywhere. lol Have a nice Thursday.
QueenBitchLily
The Palestinians are cry bullies that throw punches and then go hide behind liberal white people in other countries, and they keep electing terrorists who want to eliminate Jews like Hitler did. I know you've already written off my opinion here probably but the fact people will politically support Nazis as long as they have the right skin shade is crazy to me, but what do I know. I'm glad your elected Democrat officials don't have the same opinions as you do even if they won't tell you so, and that fills me with some level of satisfaction about the whole thing. No country should have to put up with the level of shit that Israel has, and people will never forget what happened in October, with children and gradparnets raped and slaughtered in front of their families, as much as they gloss over it. If people wanted an Islamic middle east, it's their fault for losing the war. And Jews were there first before Hadrian tried to kill them all and moved in the Arabs.
pewternatural
The Palestinians have not had elections in over a decade. Hamas is a terrorist organization that presented themselves as centrist and wanting peace with Israel before puling the rug out from the Palestinian people. Hamas has kidnapped, tortured and killed Palestinians who advocate for peace. To say they keep electing terrorist is the equivalent of saying Afghans elected the Taliban. You should also look into what Israelis think, the vast majority want peace and do not agree with Netenyahu, whose regime have made it clear they want all Palestinians out of Israel. Also, I do not vote Democrat. I'm glad to know that you avidly watch right wing media and parrot back their talking points. At the end of the day, dropping bombs on refugee camps and hospitals is inherently wrong, if we can not agree on a point as simple as that, which I know we can't, then there is no reason for us to have a conversation.
We have talked before and we both know you aren't looking to have a discussion, you are looking to insult me. I honestly do not understand why you even message me as most of the time you are ignored. I doubt my art interest you, we share no similar interest and our worldviews are diametrically opposed, so why even message me? Really the only thing we share in common is that we are both Glee's friends and that is not enough of a reason for us to interact with each other. I could understand if you disagreed with my viewpoint and wanted to have a discussion where you layout your points to give me wider perspective, after all the Israel-Palestine conflict is one of the most complex geopolitical issues to take on. If that is you intention, then you are going about it the wrong way, you are lacking in your ability to communicate in a way that leads to meaningful discussion. You talk like a pundit on a cable tv news show. At the end of the day this will be a completely fruitless effort for both of us.
I doubt you'll just let this be the last word, so just to get some of your favorite points of attacks out of the way, here we go. I am not a Democrat and think Biden is a senile twat who should have never been elected to office. I think the same thing of Trump. I am not unemployed or on welfare, I work a middle class job at a great company and make middle class money. Yes, I have been unemployed and on welfare before, tends to happen when you have arthritis so bad you can't walk around your own bedroom without a cane. Yes, I am bipolar and know I have quite a few bad takes and weird views and that my mood swings can impact how I view things. I'm sure you will find other things that are in no way related to the topic at hand as way to respond, that's fine, you can have the last word.